Monday, 10 December 2012

A Good Float??

Regardless of the result should I be folding this pre or maybe on the flop or did I play it perfectly?

18 comments:

  1. the open pre is fine, i would be folding this to a 3bet all the time though unless he is alot deeper. once you call 3bet you almost have to call a cbet on that board w BDFD + GS.

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    1. Pretty much this. Sometimes I get stubborn IP

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  2. i think the flat is fine pre if he has a low 3bet% i know at the lower micros not a alot of players 3 bet out of the blinds uless the raiser was in the cutoff or button so they tend to have a premium pair. and if he does have a high 3bet % you can raise with your draw on the flop and get him to fold a lot. if you were out of position then i would just dump it though. those are my thoughts anyways

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  3. I think u'd b surprised at some of the junk that gets 3bet from the blinds, even in the micros (NL25/ NL50, maybe not lower)

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    1. Yeah. That depends on villains... Not everybody is capable of 3betting light there. I recently did a couple of database analisis of a couple of 10NL regs and at those stakes there is almost no 3bet bluffing going on at all(huge difference compared to 25NL)

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  4. What was your plan when you miss the turn? I think that would be more important to answer before you decide to float.

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  5. I would most likely give. If I knew villain had QQ-AA and the turn was another bad card I will sometimes bet turn/ jam river as a bluff but only if I know that villain can fold the BIG pair, some won't

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    1. I would call the flop, if I think villain would cbet AK on such a flop since most AK would check turn after they miss. In which case you can bet something like 1/2 pot and take it down most of the time as a semi-bluff. You're not exactly getting the right odds to call if we put him on JJ+, AK/AQ. I think we are playing for implied odds against his premiums and some fold on the turns.

      when you call a bet on that flop your 3bet hand range boils down to SC, PP IMO. The turn card fills alot of the SC and possible sets for PP. I'm surprised he check/shoved there. But then again what would you do with AA in that spot? bet turn then c/f river? I hate to be in his shoes.

      Why did you bet the turn by the way? After he checks the turn, I think I would've checked back to let him feel more comfortable with his hand and raise him on the river. If he had an AK/AQ, I would have liked him to catch something to continue. Otherwise he's folding. Possibly, I'm missing some value by checking turn?

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    2. Yup, he is in a world of pain wit AA oop. If I check back the turn with him still having $40 I dont c him bettim more that $10-$12, If I ship over that he still has room to fold. I think I need to build the pot on the turn.

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    3. What would you have done in his spot? :)

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    4. I always fold AA pre so I would never get into that spot :)

      Na, wud probably c/c then c/decide

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  6. IMO: default play (unknown villain) would be fold vs 3-Bet. Otherwise as always it depends on villain.
    3bet% vs open from LP, CB -> 3-Bet pots, your perceived range (aka image, history)
    109s is a good premiumcracker if he`s sticky with prem.
    Last but not least: is it a normal table or zoom? At a normal table its furthermore an investment for the future, if villain tends to tilt... ;-)

    ....and its pure FUN and good for your mindset if it works :)

    GL and GO GO !!!

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  7. It was at a ZOOM table but with the amount of hands I play you continually see the same villains over and over again and so do develop meta game although your table position constantly changes.

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    1. yeah sure, iknow playing zoom too but its not the same dynamic as you wrote due to position changes. If this would be a normal table it would be more likely that he 3-betting your LP-opens a lot if he is tilting.

      Anyways: good float if some requirements given

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    2. Lucky with tha gutshot I know :)

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    3. BTW: i have approximately 2,3 k hands from you. I am a bit curious about a stat. But it can be simple lack of samplesize.

      Is it possible that i can ask you about it via mail or somthing else?? BC i dont wanna ask it here in public

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    4. Yeah, don't out me in public please :)

      I control over the magic delete button though just in case

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